Here are three drow sleepers to add to the last package (Sleeping NPC Placeables). I discovered .dds, so the textures are a bit better. I included 2 scripts to make your NPC's go to bed at night and wake up in the morning. These are intended for use with the tileset beds. Salut
ya know we wouldnt have this big argument if he used half- orcs or some other race, so can we just pretend that there not elves for just a little bit?
Posted by Ultimo at 2003-01-0319:19:00
Until Reverie is mentioned in my 3rd edition phb, Elves sleep like babies.
Posted by rabidgoalie at 2003-01-0318:04:00
"Yet another difference between elves and the other humanoids of the worlds they share is that elves do not sleep in the typical sense, though they can enter that state if they desire. Instead, they gain their rest through a process known as 'the reverie'. The reverie is akin to sleep, yet is very much unlike it. When elves enter this state, they vividly relive past memories, those both pleasant and painful. Like the dreaming of humans, elves have no control over which memories rise to the fore when they relinquish their bodies to the reverie. Occasionally, elves do actually dream, but this is not a frequent occurrence and mostly occurs only when they truly sleep." - an excerpt from PHBR8, The Complete Book of ELVES. I have been a PnP DM for over fifteen years, and a player before that, with mostly everyone playing elves in these campaigns (doesn't anyone like dwarves of halflings?). So, I have been forced to explore the world of the elf quite a bit! Elves DO sleep...if they want to (or if someone casts a really lucky sleep spell :-). As for drow not entering reverie, I am quite certain that they are able to enter that state, but why would they when a sibling or subordinate would take that opportunity to 'prune the family tree'? Besides, in a world such as the drows, ANY memory is bound to be bad, so why bother to relive it!? As far as facial hair is concerned, any elf (drow or otherwise) that has facial hair has human ancestry of some sort, because elves DO NOT have facial hair. They were created by their god, Corellon Larethian, into the form they now occupy. They skipped the evolution process undergone by so many other races (they also don't have canine teeth for the same reason), and facial hair is a natural insulator used to stave off the cold (which elves are practically immune to anyway). I am not trying to be a know-it-all, but I have a _LOT_ of experience with drow and elves in general and I know how popular they are, so I offer my humble knowledge in hopes that it will clear up some misconceptions about elves. But as Ishtanna and Stripes said, you can do whatever you like, this is a FANTASY game after all. :-) These are very nicely done placeables, no matter how academically correct they may or may not be! They will fit in to any drow based module very well (maybe a drow massage parlor or festhall). Thank's for the good work!
Posted by Haevlyn at 2002-12-2816:50:00
Yes Jerel... Elves don't sleep per se, they sit down and slide into the Reverie... But you're wrong in the sense that they don't sleep at all. I think you'll find that because drow elves strayed from the lands of light their ways changed from the high, grey, sylvan and aquatic elves. You'll find that drow elves *do* sleep.... simply because they have forgotton how to slip into the Reverie. Nice job... going into my drow-based mod.
Posted by Ishtanna at 2002-12-1220:40:00
I think he did a wonderful job. Don't blame him for the game creators for their depiction of drow. Second, as stripes said, this is a flexible game. We can make up whatever we want and make whoever do it to whatever whereever. This game is for the creative minded D&D players.And did you ever think that someone could have cursed that drow with facial hair or that he made some kind of potion or spell to give himself the illusion of it? Think about it.... =)
Posted by stripes at 2002-12-0319:17:00
You people are too closed minded, we don't have to use just ideas given from D&D make up your own races with whatever you want them to do, maybe in my world an elf can have a beard even, or sleep 23 hours a day, who cares?
Posted by Kendaric at 2002-11-2704:49:00
@ Lord Lightbane True, normal elves can't grow facial hair but drow males have often been shown with moustaches (2nd Ed. Monster Compendium, miniatures made by Ral Partha...). At least in 2nd Ed. they were described as growing moustaches. Kendaric
Posted by FlawedLogic at 2002-11-1823:05:00
Also... is that one sleeping in full chainmail? OUCH! Nice job, but the details'll getcha. ;)
Posted by Lord at 2002-11-1819:21:00
lol. I think they messed up there...cuz elves can't grow facial hair or any hair at all except for on the head for that matter :). I think the idea totally sucked, but they probably wanted to make drow look different from a simple elf male model with different colour hair&skin.
Posted by Smash at 2002-11-1818:56:00
Something I never figured out : WHY did they give the male drow mustaches???
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