Remles' Gender Impartial Flirting Mod Readme
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Update:
- Finally got around to playing Neverwinter again. Fiddled around with the game a bit and hit a road block. Unless I learn how to change in game dialogues, I can't go passed beta.
- currently known to work for Act I of both OC and MotB
Why does this mod do?
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This mod (hopefully) eliminates the gender bias for flirting. i.e. Males can flirt with males,
females can flirt with females.
Why make this mod?
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This mod was created in hopes of creating more options for romance in Neverwinter Nights 2. It
increases the romances option to 2 (at least, it should). I am slowly working towards making all
the characters in NWN 2 capable of romance with the main character. If anything, this mod is hilarious.
What version is this mod?
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V1.00 beta
What is included?
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- files to place in the NWN2 Override folder
- Readme.txt
Installation
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Drag everything from the RGIF mod �Override� folder in your �Neverwinter Nights 2\Override� folder.
Changes
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RGIF v1.00 alpha to v1.00 beta
- removed all unneeded files (reduced its size by 50%!)
Original to RGIF v1.00 alpha
- removed some gender checks for flirting (but not other conversations)
- added "Lady's Man" background trait for females and "Flirt" for males (too lazy to change the names)
- altered some files to pass gender checks for conversations (depending on how things are coded, might not pass all of them)
Known Bugs
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- Your gender will depend on who you're talking to and/or dialogue choices; it is variable
- though I have yet to encounter stability problems, there are some user who have reported occassional crashing of NWN 2
Notes
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- not yet fully tested; only known to work for Act I for both OC and the MotB
- I've hit a road block; It seems only gender (and influence) matters when flirting with NPC's currently, so I have to now figure out how to modify dialogue directly in both OC and MotB
- this is a 'quick-fix' solution until I can find time to make major changes to the game
If you have any suggestions/comments/improvements or if you wish to collaborate, email me at
�remlesATgmailDOTcom� and you will be given credit of course if your idea(s) end up being used.
Disclaimer
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Remles' Gender Impartial Flirting mod was done without collaboration with anyone (That�s right. This is
my own sick perverseness, no one else�s)
If you wish to include part or all of RGIF mod in your mod/hak, please give me due credit.
I am neither responsible for any illness, injury, or death, nor am I responsible for any software or
hardware related issue/damages due to the use of this mod, i.e. being maimed by glass shrapnel caused by
your monitor exploding, being strangled by your wireless mouse, etc. Use at your own risk. You have been
warned.
I'd be interested in knowing if this works as well, I always loved having the ability to choose what -I- want, Not what the developers think I should want. :P Let us know if the bugs are worked out, If so I'll definitely download, rate and recommend this to everyone ever.
can we get an update? have the bugs been fixed? i am Wildly looking forward to downloading a bug free update. _________________________ Yea tho I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I shall fear no evil; for I am the BADDEST mother fucker in this valley.
-Tim
Posted by ladydesire at 2008-08-09 16:17:06 Voted 9.50 on 08/09/08
@Remles: I tried this once before but got a bit irked at the gender crossed conversations; I just tried it again and it looks like you got that fixed (in the OC's Tutorial,Daeghun didn't refer to my female character as his foster son this time). I even liked the little conversation snippet with the two gender choices for at the Fair.
Posted by Chimicat at 2007-12-17 20:36:22 Voted 9.50 on 12/17/07
Is it possible to make this work for Shandra? She seemed to have a *very* healthy interest in my female Drow monk. After a while, it almost felt like I had to shoo her away with a stick or something. o.o
Posted by -Aerows- at 2007-09-15 06:30:03 Voted 8.00 on 09/15/07
I'm rating this an 8 because I cannot get it to work under 1.06, but it could easily be a 9.5 if it did work. I would love to see a working update to this (also minus the bugginess that others have reported, though I cannot get it to work at all). This is a great idea, and would add a lot of value.
It's an awesome idea, and I'd love to play a gay character, but the bugs sound a little too much at the moment. I'll reserve voting until you've got it updated.
Ok... been using this for a while -slowly- working my way through the game.
----SPOILER-ISH----
Found perhaps the only game-breaking bug with it! I'm pretty sure it was caused by this. But in Act III, after blowing up some bridges, there is meant to be a cutscene with your romancing character atop the walls of the keep.
My male human cleric of kelemvor is kind of romancing Casavir, but Elanee spoke to him after the battle was over. When it cut to the scene atop the wall, the first line of -CASAVIRS- dialogue began even though I was there with Elanee. Then the cut scene abruptly ended, leaving me stranded on top of the wall with a silent Elanee.
The weirdest thing however, looking at the chat text, the line of Casavir's dialogue I had heard was apparently spoken by Mordenkainen's Sword!! Absolutely bizarre.
Posted by Dark Bliss at 2007-04-29 08:12:42 Voted 9.50 on 04/29/07
just what the game needs,, love it just fix the buggs and u got a clear 10..
Posted by saphirefenix at 2007-03-05 15:26:41 Voted 10.00 on 03/05/07
Awesome job, I always wanted a few more options.... Elanee really didn't seem too... Interested. I really liked the Elanee romance idea, because it was a little like the BG2 Aerie romance. But it really left me wanting more.
Thankyou for this mod!! _________________________
I'm posting only an 8.75 because it doesnt have the bugs worked out yet. Great idea though! There are a lot of us who are either straight and want to play a gay/bi character or we're gay/bi and want to play the sexuality we're comfortable with. ....... Dark read his previous post, he'll get to it when things settle down for him, probably after next week......even then it'll take a bit for him to do further debugging. _________________________ One persons religion is another's myth.
Posted by The Dark One at 2007-03-01 10:59:52 Voted 10.00 on 03/01/07
Thank you anyway-I am sorry for my rudness.When will u update it?
Posted by The Dark One at 2007-03-01 10:57:36 Voted 10.00 on 03/01/07
hmm , all i n3eeded to do for this to happen was use the complete crafting system. I was up to the trial before i realized my character was having gender issues. Daeghun called one of male characters daughter too, until I figured out the problem. It was kind of funny. when this is farther than alpha I may run through with it.
Sorry. I've been very busy with work lately and will not likely be able to have much free time until next week, so I'll begin my testing again once I everything settles down. Thanks for the comments. I'll keep hacking away at the mod in the little bit of free time I have.
The Dark One: The first time you can flirt is with Amie, after asking about her parents. I do not know about the others as I have not that far into the game. However, you probably cannot sleep with Elanee.
Posted by The Dark One at 2007-02-05 09:31:13 Voted 10.00 on 03/01/07
What is wrong?Remles please answer!
Posted by The Dark One at 2007-02-03 07:12:08 Voted 10.00 on 03/01/07
Earth to Remles!Anybody there!Remles!Remles!Come oan guys!
Posted by The Dark One at 2007-02-02 04:01:36 Voted 10.00 on 03/01/07
Earth to Remles
Posted by The Dark One at 2007-02-02 04:00:33 Voted 10.00 on 03/01/07
Will anybody answer me ? I am very very impatient!
Posted by The Dark One at 2007-02-02 03:56:25 Voted 10.00 on 03/01/07
Great idea - rating 10.00 ! I have some questions about your GREAT mod.
1.Where is the first time yoy can flirt and with who?
2.Is it true that you can make Elanee to go in bed with you?
3.When I have talked to Elanee about children I asked her "Was that an ofer" and she answered "To you!?I am not......." Why she doesn't tell me "Maybe,If I find the right men" I am drow rogue but I have maxed influence with her-used cheat codes:)
Neat idea. No vote yet. I'll wait for the final version. _________________________ NWN2 Voting Standards - Tattoo it on your forehead.
10 - A Masterpiece, Genuinely Groundbreaking
9 - Outstanding, a Must Have
8 - Excellent, Recommended to Anyone
7 - Very Good, Deserves a Look
6 - Good, Qualified Recommendation
5 - Fair, Solid yet Unremarkable
4 - Some Merit, Requires Improvements
3 - Poor Execution, Potential Unrealized
2 - Very Little Appeal
1 - Not Recommended to Anyone
Posted by Rayne Alexandra at 2006-12-18 19:03:38 Voted 10.00 on 12/18/06
I have to admit, i love this hak just for the sheer humor of it, as well as that i think games shouldnt be so narrow-minded.
But thats for a different rant. ^.~
The one issue i have with the hak is that the game can no longer decide what gender i am... Khelgar will always call me Lad, I get both male and female options when talking to Elanee about children, Daghun always calls me his daughter, etc. it would be nice to have a little bit more consistancy in pronouns. :P
Remles, thanks bunches for this hak, keep up the good work, and i hope that more improvements come from this! Maybe include a way to do relationships with Neeshka or Shandra! *winks*
@kenty191 - NWN1's romances were easy enough to "gender neutralize". It was just a case of going in and removing all the gender checks from the conversations. I never got around to working out how to save the modified conversations in a HAK, though. The problem was that Aribeth (I didn't do this with Aerin Gend) would very rarely refer to my character as "he", since I didn't manage to catch all the pronouns (mostly the romance streams did include gender tokens rather than actual pronouns, but just occasionally they slipped a "he" in, which I would have changed to a token if I'd caught it).
I'd be surprised if it couldn't be done the same way with NWN2. (Including unlocking the modules of the campaign before you've played them to the end - I don't know how different the NWN2 engine is, though.)
(Remles - I'll rate it when I've had a chance to look at it, but judging from the last few comments, I'm unsure if it will work or not...) _________________________ Zandilar.
Oh and just to add ... since I have no real way of verifying, this might only be with scripts called via 'rs' and UI scripts but since both of those are broken, it's very likely that all scripts are broken in 1.03, which is why I mentioned that.
Regardless, that might be something you'd want to test.
(And once again, I wish this place had an edit function.)
1.03 disallows the use of compiled (ncs) scripts, it permits only uncompiled (nss) scripts. I found this out myself recently and I went scouring the forums to find out why. XiDragon posted his findings and it seems like that is the case.
So this wonderful addition won't work with the scriptset included, due to it being compiled. I just figured I'd let you know.
I'm almost tempted to snag a decompiler and try that because I'd rather miss this, otherwise.
I intend to fix the inconsistent gender determination, but still have all of the dialogue options for both genders. That is if the conversation for the main campaign is not hardcoded. I know of one method to do this, I sure hope it works.
10 - A Masterpiece, Genuinely Groundbreaking 9 - Outstanding, a Must Have 8 - Excellent, Recommended to Anyone 7 - Very Good, Deserves a Look 6 - Good, Qualified Recommendation 5 - Fair, Solid yet Unremarkable 4 - Some Merit, Requires Improvements 3 - Poor Execution, Potential Unrealized 2 - Very Little Appeal 1 - Not Recommended to Anyone
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